{"id":550,"date":"2007-11-30T15:34:30","date_gmt":"2007-11-30T19:34:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.gardnercampbell.net\/blog1\/?p=550"},"modified":"2007-11-30T15:34:30","modified_gmt":"2007-11-30T19:34:30","slug":"interviewed-by-jon-udell-for-it-conversations","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.gardnercampbell.net\/blog1\/interviewed-by-jon-udell-for-it-conversations\/","title":{"rendered":"Interviewed by Jon Udell for IT Conversations"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.itconversations.com\"><br \/>\n<img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/assets.conversationsnetwork.org\/channels\/itconversations\/ext\/button9-12.gif?w=584\" \/> <\/a><\/p>\n<p>It was an honor and a thrill, frankly, to be <a href=\"http:\/\/itc.conversationsnetwork.org\/shows\/detail3451.html\">interviewed by Jon Udell for his &#8220;Interviews with Innovators&#8221; series <\/a>over at IT Conversations. It&#8217;s taken me two weeks to blog about it because I couldn&#8217;t figure out quite what to say. Somehow &#8220;Look, Ma!&#8221; didn&#8217;t seem right, though it&#8217;s pretty much the way I felt.<\/p>\n<p>When in doubt, give thanks. I was the voice on the other end of the telephone, but\u00c2\u00a0I wouldn&#8217;t have had much to say without a whole\u00c2\u00a0lot of other voices in my head, all of whom deserve much wider recognition.<\/p>\n<p>I\u00c2\u00a0always need to thank my former boss, <a href=\"http:\/\/chipspeak.umwblogs.org\/\">UMW CIO Chip German<\/a>, and my old team of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.marthaburtis.net\/wrapping\/\">Martha<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/jerryslezak.net\/scissors\/\">Jerry<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/andheblogs.andyrush.net\/\">Andy<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/bavatuesdays.com\/\">Jim<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patrickgmj.net\/blog\/1\">Patrick <\/a>in the Division of Teaching and Learning Technologies. Perhaps I can get some kind of widget for my blog that identifies me as &#8220;proud former coach of the Dream Team&#8221; and put the badge on blog posts like this one. (Can the TV contract be far behind?) I also want to thank <a href=\"http:\/\/www.blogarithms.com\/\">Doug Kaye<\/a>, Executive Director of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.conversationsnetwork.org\/\">Conversations Network<\/a>, of which <a href=\"http:\/\/www.itconversations.com\/\">IT Conversations <\/a>is a part. Doug took me on as a post-production audio engineer for IT Conversations back in March of 2005, just as the podcasting revolution was getting underway. I learned a lot from Doug and got to work on some great shows, including\u00c2\u00a0presentations by <a href=\"http:\/\/itc.conversationsnetwork.org\/shows\/detail378.html\">Doug Engelbart <\/a>and John Markoff (<a href=\"http:\/\/itc.conversationsnetwork.org\/shows\/detail595.html\">part one<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/itc.conversationsnetwork.org\/shows\/detail609.html\">part two<\/a>). Doug&#8217;s done all of us a huge service with\u00c2\u00a0IT Conversations and the Conversations Network, and he&#8217;s influenced my own vision of what a truly beneficial information future could look like. The channel may be called &#8220;IT Conversations,&#8221; but a more accurate title would be &#8220;Our World&#8211;and get ready for it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>And of course there are those colleagues here at UMW and elsewhere who keep me alert and moving ahead&#8211;you know who you are.<\/p>\n<p>My biggest thanks, of course, go to <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.jonudell.net\/\">Jon Udell<\/a>. It was both daunting and exciting talking to Jon: daunting because the man is so quick and deeply thoughtful, and exciting, well, for the same reasons. And I have to say, with apologies for\u00c2\u00a0the tease, that the conversation after the interview was every bit as enjoyable and educational for me as the interview itself was, and that&#8217;s saying something.<\/p>\n<p>The plain fact is that Jon&#8217;s a very, very inspiring fellow, and has been a tremendous influence on my thinking ever since Jerry Slezak told me about the now-classic <a href=\"http:\/\/weblog.infoworld.com\/udell\/gems\/umlaut.html\">Heavy Metal Umlaut Band screencast<\/a>. If it&#8217;s not presumptious to say so, Jon&#8217;s a kindred spirit,\u00c2\u00a0even when we&#8217;re debating an issue, as we have been recently (and you can hear about it in the podcast). He&#8217;s also one of the few people I&#8217;ve ever met who can be in absolute full-tilt high persuasive gear in a conversation and then suddenly pause, look you in the eye, and say, &#8220;y&#8217;know, you&#8217;re right&#8221;&#8211;just at the moment I feel that my own argument is on very shaky ground.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d go into more detail, but I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;d embarrass him. I&#8217;ll save the rest of the encomium for another post (or ten). Instead, I&#8217;ll close now by thanking Jon for the chance once again to think through some questions, challenges, concerns, and dreams\u00c2\u00a0in conversation with him. That&#8217;s a privilege I do not take lightly or for granted. The fact is, talking to Jon is always what I call a great gig. We in higher education are very fortunate to have his voice, mind, heart, and spirit in company with us. 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